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The mediocre top 10 list

Why focused lists are better than all inclusive ones
Written by James Yu
January 9th, 2007

I was reading an interesting bit in Chris Anderson’s The Long Tail about how top 10 lists of things that are spread thinly across multiple categories tend to be banal. His primary example is that of top 10 lists of artists from all genres. Any casual reader of such a list would immediately recognize the loss of focus inherent in such a list–it’s simply a jumble of popular artists with barely any depth.

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While reading the example, I was reminded of a top 10 contest two of my friends and I played during my years in college. We had decided to create a list of the best songs of all time. We would each come up with 10 songs that we felt would make the list, and we would go down the line and eliminate songs from each others’ lists until we only had 10 left–presumebly, the 10 best.

We were really excited, as if the final list would be a miracle list straight from the heavens.

We quickly went to the task of whittling down the 3 lists. One person would exclaim, “No way that song would ever be on my list. That’s out!” And thus, this went on for another 30 minutes. We all had similar tastes in music, but just different enough to cause arguments of religious proportions. At one point, the two of them threatened to skin my alive if I blackballed Soul Asylum’s Runaway Train.

But, as the number of songs dwindled, we began to notice something. The list was becoming quite familiar. Yes, we had all seen it before. It started to look like a Billboard music chart.

We were horrified. This wasn’t what we had intended. Our tastes are eclectic and niche. The last thing we wanted was a final list that mirrored the pop charts.

The real problem underlying it all was that our tastes were different enough to cause a “graying” of the final list. Combining our tastes into one list resulted in a bland popular songs list, without any artists that delved deeply into a genre.

Just like with our music charts, it’s important to remember that social media and the filters that sift through them need to flexible enough to compare things in a focused genre. It’s much more interesting to see the top 10 horror films that included a clown than it is to see the top 10 hits of the century. By leveraging modern filters and searches, we are at a point where producing such niche lists is just as easy as finding the top hits.

5 Responses to “The mediocre top 10 list”

  1. Phil Reynolds Says:

    I think this is what Alexis DeTocqueville referred to as “The tyranny of the majority.” In chpts. 15 and 16 of his book “Democracy In America.” This rule would especially come into effect in Wikipedia where the majority opinion as opposed to objective research must ultimately rule. However, eventually it became the tyranny of the unemployed and teenagers with a lot of time on their hands who could follow entries and change them immediately after a subject expert made a correction. “It’s a relatively few, difficult to deal with people that cause the problems, and once a quorum of such people were at work on the Wikipedia system,” . In chpt. 16 DeTocqueville states “When the central government which represents that majority has issued a decree, it must entrust the execution of its will to agents over whom it frequently has no control and whom it cannot perpetually direct. … [these] form so many concealed breakwaters, which check or part the tide of popular determination. Unfortunately these checks come in the form of uninformed special interest groups or incompetent or agenda driven individuals.

    Ultimately websites reflect the organization or entity that builds them. Wikipedia unfortunately represents western democracy clearly and effectively. As such it is more a symptom of western culture especially the United States than a simple problem of a few people writing some inaccurate information. That is why the debate is so heated and involved and why anybody really cares. In indictment on Wikipedia is ultimately an indictment of “We the People” and unfortunately the “People” that choose to participate are often ill informed, biased and can shout louder than the more informed and moderate voices in our society or in this project.

    R Philip Reynolds

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  4. Bernadette Says:

    Nice article, i was thinking about you the other day. Can’t wait to see what you write about. Go for it!

  5. P1 Fernandes Says:

    Good effort!

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